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The Great Debate-90’s comics vs. 70’s comics!

Hello, Legions of the Unspoken!  I had the chance to have a great conversation with Paul O’ Connor of Longbox Graveyard about the merits of the 70’s and Bronze Age vs. the 90’s!  Scroll through some cool covers of both decades, and then you’ll find the podcast!  Take a listen and comment with some of your thoughts!  Thanks again Paul!  Transcript coming soon!

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“…a bunch of guys trying to get into Hell but the Devil won’t let ‘em, ‘cause they’re not all bad. So they try to go out and do bad things, which turn out to be good!”

That is Jack Kirby (on March 14, 1993) speaking about his new series, Satan’s Six. Not that there is any problem attributing that quote. Who else but the King of Comics could sell a premise like that? For more on that particular series see Emily Scott’s article focusing on these “rejects from Hades… because they couldn’t do anything bad!” This is “Indie Month,” so let us discuss the rest of the line that proved to be the last major work from the medium’s greatest creator and the chrome-foiled cards that came packaged with it.

Can you tell this came out during the Gimmick Era? If you cannot then look agai- Wait, what…?
THEY COINED THE TERM! I already respect this comic line more than the New 52.

This is one of the few occasions such synergistic marketing made sense, as the publisher was Topps, the trading card company, still in business today years after “Fleer” and “SkyBox” went the way of the Hologram Card. I was confused after learning that the King’s long reign ended at this company, but that was his greatest gift, always leaving the reader with no idea what would happen next.

Jack Kirby passed away in 1994. I imagine it was not just The New Gods’ Black Racer that greeted him but all of his characters, lined up to send off their curmudgeonly father figure. You have seen the movies, you have bought the toys. You know his work even if you have never seen it before. If you found this blog by accident and have decided to stick around, you probably have at least one friend who corrects you when you say, “Stan Lee created all of these characters, right?”

“Look at Mr. Smiles over here. Where’s your wife, old man? What a Class A pre-vert.”

After years of toiling away for everyone else, Jack made his move. Topps Comics was the new guy on the scene, during the height of the comics boom, and they wanted to see what designs and characters the King had squirreled away during the years that came after he realized Marvel and DC were never going to cut him in on the real action. You may remember this tactic as exactly what is happening right now, more than two decades later. Every time you read Avengers or X-Men and realize that it has been a while since you have seen anything truly new, jot down the date and look at what that same creator had coming out from a company where they took home the rights to the books. I imagine the headspace was the same.

What did Topps get to spend all of that hard earned trading card money on? The Secret City Saga! The sprawling, four-colored epic that would usher in the next era of superhero comics. Or at least that is what everyone hoped. The end product itself is remarkable but not for the reasons it should be. Comprising a five issue mini-series (beginning with a #0, which I imagine someone had to explain to Jack without coming across as Funky Flashman) and three one-shots, each of which introduced a new character of Jack’s own design, the saga is one complete story with the promise of more that, technically, never came. Kurt “Maximum Security” Busiek (because of that book I own every single Marvel issue from December 2000) attempted a few follow-ups including, “in the tradition of the X-Men,” the “TeenAgents” and Dynamite’s “Kirby Genesis” from a few years back.

The original issues boast talent on an unprecedented scale. Though the designs (and most importantly the copyrights) are Jack’s, the first thing you see is Walt Simonson’s cover for the inaugural issue. He is joined by Roy Thomas’ script and Steve Ditko’s pencils. They were not just successors in the industry that were honoring the work of their hero but were Jack’s peers getting another shot at storytelling in the way they knew how, an oasis amidst the grime n’ grit that we all recall fondly. Even the next generation gets in on the action with the daughters of Marvel Bullpen regulars Artie Simek and Sol Brodsky showing up in the credits. This thing reads as if it were a pitch for a series about the Third Act of the greatest creators from the Age of Marvel Comics that are not Stan Lee. Even “The Man’s” presence was felt in the form of Jim Salicrup, the series’ editor, doing his best Stan impression on every non-story page. Have to fill those pages somehow and there certainly were no outside advertisers in these things. Plenty of house ads though (I may hunt down Jurassic Park before I watch Star-Lord take down Devil Dinosaur next Summer).

So why did it fail so miserably?

To say that the Secret City Saga detonated on the launch pad would not be fair, but when the first character we meet in 1993’s Bombast #1 is a black teenage junkie running from “The Crack Man,” you can see why this does not appear on anyone’s Top Ten Lists for the decade in question (not that it has ever been collected). He is joined by the manipulative, careerist newscaster, one of two female characters, and the heroes themselves, who are as white (and in at least one case, as blonde) as any of their European descended super-peers, regardless of the fact that they are from Chicago 15,000 years ago (a fact we are reminded of again and again in case that is something you are likely to forget). Glimmers of what could have been show through with Glida, the Nightglider, drawn and dressed more practically than her peers at any other company at the time.

Not “The Crack Man” but I am pretty sure someone grabbed one of the reimagined NFL designs Jack did in the seventies. At least I hope they did.

Here is where the reach of the King is felt. I am not sure where the line between Thomas and Jack’s contributions is, but some of the ideas feel quite familiar. Every fifteen millennia the Human Race is replaced. We men of today are the Tenth Men and the superpeople of the story are of our forebears, the Ninth Men. No civilization yet has been spared the ravages of “The Darkstorm,” but the last one at least tried to save whatever came after. Without getting too muddled in the nonsense, the Greatest Military Heroes and the Finest Scientific Minds were sequestered away, in a Secret City built far beneath what is now Chicago, to wait for the next inevitable collapse. Big ideas, sprawling across the page, with more new characters and gimmicks than you even realize upon first read? That’s Jack Kirby. This story sits on my shelf next to “The Fourth World” and “The Eternals” where it feels right at home. There is a sense of grandeur, a broadening of scope, on display here that most superhero stories simply do not bother with (either because their creators cannot or will not for fear of leaving us poor readers behind). To explain what I mean, I should begin with my entry point, Captain Glory.

Captain Keltan was an epic warrior of the Last Age. He fought “The Primitives” (by which I think he means whatever we are descended from) and won Glorious Battles! He was, as the Ben Grimm-esque Bombast keeps reminding him, a Commissioned Officer, and so a little of the Lower East Side kid bleeds through once again. Keltan means “glory” in the sing-song language of our garishly garbed antecedents. This is also the name the aforementioned newscaster christens him with. Such discrepancies, the origins of the characters’ names and what exactly they are trying to accomplish in the modern world, are commonplace. I am not sure how tight a ship was being run, but Topps Comics did not survive the nineties, so that may have something to do with it. Keltan is the type of Captain America figure that Jack has been peddling since the forties, and that is not a bad thing. Keltan wants what he wants and that is the best for everyone no matter what the personal cost. He understands the burden of leadership and of wearing that sweet freakin’ mask.

If this image had not been the cover to a Jack Kirby Collector magazine I would think that someone had just penciled over an old Captain America cover.

The Ninth Men’s principal city-state was Gazra, a wonderland in complete harmony with the natural world, though in relative isolation. This is not the case for all of the Other Previous Men, some of whom were far more advanced than us. Jack always reminded us how small we can be and how to strive for more. This particular ancient civilization had no time for mechanical or artificial structures. They did just fine without them, providing ongoing conflict when the heroes are thrust into the Modern World. They did have vibrant, beautiful colors that we apparently shun. The type of bold, primary colors that only seem to work in the world of comic book superheroes (even their movie counterparts never seem so bright by comparison).

Glory is a man who is, just about, the last survivor of a way of life everyone he meets from here on in will never understand. He dresses as if he were wrapped in a nation’s flag, its ideals and hopes. He is the best of what was, and even the tone of his voice is enough to sway characters who cannot understand him to his cause. He even has incredible “super” strength from all that time spent in “genetic hibernation.” Jack may not have had the chance to really develop Superman while he was working at DC but some of what he could have done seems to have made its way here. One of the interesting storytelling devices used is that the three main characters never learn English. There is no throwaway line about why the language barrier has been breached nor is it merely ignored altogether. It is acknowledged and dealt with in some creative ways. The alien nature of superpower is retained.

Though this is a new shared universe, Officer “Savage” Dragon makes an appearance, and a few of his early adventures are mentioned in passing. Dragon, for the uninitiated, has met damn near everyone in his long superhero career. Taken holistically, in a St. Elsewhere snow globe kind of way this would mean that a fair chunk of this universe has been witnessed since. Salicrup actually mentions, in one of his off brand Stan’s Soapboxes, that he personally believes there to be only one “uni”verse (hence the name), and as far as he is concerned nothing should bar the Ninth Men from meeting the Justice League or the Avengers. Being an avid fan of The Multiversity, I prefer packing away each world into its own little box. The first brush with superpower this world has comes from a variety of age-old superpeople showering the world with naturally grown super-weapons and technology that dwarfs our own in creativity and brilliance. The characters we are introduced to are only a small cross-section of the ones that have survived, and an entire Super City resides beneath Grant Park.

The potential here is as much a Genesis story as anything in ongoing superhero stories. As much as I would have liked to have seen this world again, either in Image or some expanded Dynamite verse, I wonder what these ideas would have been like had they found their way into an issue of Fantastic Four or Jimmy Olsen. I would never decry Jack and his heirs the chance to profit from the work that, literally, consumed his life, but years later I feel bad that these ideas are unused with no one to speak for them. They could just as easily be ignored by Marvel along with the First Family over in that sandbox. At least there we would have had a chance to see where this would have gone.

We hardly knew ye. To think, you could be getting Converged into Battleworld if you had played your cards right!

The Democrat pictured here was revealed to be a shape-shifter (named I-kid-you-not “Shiftor”) who collapsed beneath the burden of having to impersonate a man occupying such a potentially duplicitous job. Shortly after he sacrificed his life in a noble gambit to stave off an awful, prolonged death and get back at the man who cursed him. I imagine this made cover artist, and noted Objectivist, Steve Ditko quite content. This series is a product of its times no matter how much it attempted to call to mind an earlier era and still remain timeless. President Clinton plays a major role in the story and each issue comes packaged with Collectible Trading Cards. I know this because that fact was advertised on each cover. That was the selling point here, as much as the creators and promise of “Action Adventure!” in case you were wondering why this series did not recently celebrate a Milestone Triple Digit Issue Number alongside its peers Spawn and Savage Dragon.

The villains and heroes alike look as if they were designed for a toy line that was never made. Each villainous member of “The Renegades” makes sure to shout his name and remind the boys and girls at home what his special ability is. Bombast can throw things “really well” and even Nightglider has her patented glide-suit. They come off as toy ideas that even Masters of the Universe would have passed on, and I am pretty sure the primary foe, General Ordiz, is supposed to have the lost hidden technology of an eighties recording devices on his chest.

He cuts well is what we are saying, and, yes, that is Dave “Watchmen” Gibbons’ sign-off just beneath.
Yeah, that is Bill Sienkiewicz. These issues are worth hunting down with their original polybags just to see whose name is attached to the trading cards.

Another problem is that not enough time had passed so that the bad could be forgotten. There are many adaptions of Darkseid’s invasion of Earth and “The Coming of Galactus!” but what we never see is a bold retelling of the time the New Gods went up against Don Rickles or Reed Richards berating Sue Storm for “being a woman.” Context is important because as it enters into its Act 3 the Secret City Saga goes completely off the rails. Not content with merely hinting at the advanced back stories of the characters we meet briefly (more than I have ever seen in an issue of Youngblood), and making sure that I had to read the Wikipedia entry on Mayor Daley, the Secret City Saga decides to plug a longstanding plot hole in Western Literature when it answers, as an issue’s cliffhanger no less, what exactly Lewis Carroll meant by a Boojum.

I cannot speak for the man but I am pretty sure this is the best comic to ever feature his work, though its main competitors are whatever covers Zenescope Entertainment produce and Alan Moore’s Victorian Era fanfic The League of Extraordinary Gentleman (which has devolved into clever tricks to get around paying for the use of copyrighted characters, because why would he of all people have a problem with that?). The intentionally nonsensical creature is actually a mythical creature of the Ninth Men’s age whose sudden appearance shocks them as much as the normal humans watching the spectacle unfold. Someone mentions a famed “Dr. Snark” and his psychic abilities and then, in typical Kirby fashion, an unimaginably powerful shape-shifter speaking gibberish takes down a living machine that has existed since the dawn of time that has transformed into robot named Genetitron.

For all its faults, I will miss this book.

The Secret City Saga is only part of the larger Kirbyverse which went on to include other properties that Jack held onto. Silver Star, late of Pacific Comics, joined the fray as did Captain Victory. You may remember him from such series as that one where the writers involved tried desperately to retain his greatest selling point (he is Orion of New Genesis’ son, Darkseid’s grandson) without incurring the wrath of the Gentr- I mean DC! Silver Star’s new series had one issue see the light of the day, same with the re-titled “Victory,” though both promised more to come. The artwork is a clear departure from the SCS. Maybe this was a move meant to increase sales but I am not sure. To go along with the theme, the latter title even had an honest to goodness variant cover, hallmark of a book that no one will ever regret buying. The artist is one of the few that needs no introduction and can, literally, be recognized instantly from afar.

I did not have the heart to remove the watermark as sadly my copy is the standard issue and only that site seemed to be aware of this.

This issue saw print at about the same time that Jack Kirby passed on, leaving behind a richer legacy than any I have ever come across in fiction, regardless of genre or medium. We cannot know how involved he was with any of the “Kirbyverse,” never mind the Secret City Saga, but what we do know is that the last comic the line published had a variant cover by Rob Liefeld. This issue promised “the end” on its cover, but it is a poor one (my favorite sendoff is the Jack inspired portrayal of Dan Turpin in 1998’s “Apokolips… Now!” from Superman the Animated Series). If you can see past the trappings of the series, there are a few gems worth knowing about, but if nothing else look upon these books as a cautionary tale. We have no way of knowing where we will arrive but it is not always a place of our choosing.

Mutants, Guns, and a Pariah

When it comes to the 90’s, we have lots to talk about.  There’s the early 90’s with great stuff like Acts of Vengeance, Foolkiller, Armageddon 2001, and more.  There’s the late 90’s with Kingdom Come, Avengers, Stars and S.T.R.I.P.E., and more.  The 90’s are more than just one title or even one genre, (Although as I am sure you have discerned, I’m a super hero guy), but sometimes it seems like they are boiled down into one guy.


Rob Liefeld.

No matter how many times I talk to folks about 90’s comics and insist that they are fairly good, and no matter how many times I even manage to find someone open-minded enough to let me talk to them as though 90’s comics might actually be worth looking at, they almost inexorably have to savage Rob Liefeld.

And I don’t mean just say they don’t like him, but you hear everything from how idiotic he is to how he can’t draw to how he ruined comics to how he wants to destroy Denmark.

Ok, you never hear that last thing; what you do hear though, is how much he loved shoulder pads, pouches, and big guns.  Hey man, he’s guilty of that, and guess what?  IT’S USUALLY AWESOME!

No one has ever had larger shoulder pads juxtaposed with a smaller gun.  Also, Boom Boom looks as 90’s as anyone ever has.  Possibly more so.
No one has ever had larger shoulder pads juxtaposed with a smaller gun. Also, Boom Boom looks as 90’s as anyone ever has. Possibly more so.

My biggest issue with all this now is how anyone fails to see how this captured the zeitgeist of the early 90’s perfectly.  Someone could take a gander at that, not know anything about superheroes, and could tell it is 90’s as hell.  Liefeld has faults, but he captured the essence of this era perfectly.  The 90’s were all about being bigger, bolder, and more confrontational than ever before.  We were extreme, and we didn’t give a shit who knew that or cared about it.

Look at the way wrestling was in the 90’s, or the way we Alternative Music rose to the heights it did.  Look at what we did at Woodstock ’99!  We wanted to be in everyone’s face, breaking all the rules, and making the big dot-com dollars!  We were all going to be rich, famous, and good-looking.  Obviously, I got all three, which is why I make so much money writing these blogs, people everywhere can’t stop saying my name, and folks never look away from my picture.  Or something different, whichever.

For better or for worse, these were the values then, and for better or for worse, X-Force was the embodiment of these values.  They were hard.  They were edgy.  They were led by a kick-ass, take no nonsense, character who believed in delivering the dream that Xavier had conceived that mutants and humans could live in harmony right to the doorstep of those who would destroy that dream.  He also carried a GIANT GUN to said doorstep.  And while that doorstep is a metaphor, that giant gun is most certainly not.

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That gun sort of looks like how a Swiffer will look in the future.

My first exposure to X-Force came in the form, like many of my early 90’s comics exposure, of the 1991 Marvel Universe card set.  They’re just so cool.  Look at them!  There’s all sorts of delightful minutiae for a guy like me to devour.  First appearance?  Durability Stats?  Did You know?  Um, now I do, and I am ecstatic.

That’s sort of a stupid Did You Know.  You can’t see his leg, but I can tell from this picture that his leg and arm are obviously cybernetic, and cybernetic legs count for little as far as cool goes.  I mean, they don’t suck or anything, but they don’t scream cool the way a cybernetic arm does.  Although nothing beats a cybernetic eye with crosshairs on it.  I am a freaking mark for those.  HOW COULD THEY MISS?

But I digress, I wanted to show you the card that introduced me to X-Force…I reckon I can now!

Rather than their headquarters being unknown, I like to think of them as sharing a headquarters with The Riddler.
Rather than their headquarters being unknown, I like to think of them as sharing a headquarters with The Riddler.

I’m sort of a sucker for a few things, some of which y’all are already aware of, like cyborgs.  That alone would have had me enthralled with X-Force, but it didn’t stop there.  We also get a giant Native American, and while Warpath seems rather racist now, I loved him then, as he tied into my love of the Atlanta Braves. (I know, you’re thinking, what about the Kansas City Royals, Dean?  Relax, they’re still number one.  The Braves are my second favorite team.)  Throw in a guy with cool pilot goggles and a lady with a Spuds Mackenzie eye named Domino and I was instantly spellbound.  I didn’t even need to know anything else about the team, but the fact that they were once the New Mutants rang a bell for me.

I had a weird New Mutants comic when I was very young.  I got it when I was five, and I didn’t really comprehend it.  I remember Warlock being in it, and it being over my head, but I mostly remembered those guys looking like this:

Cannonball is cool because his legs disappear into back blast when he flies, but why is there magic marker all around Karma’s head?
Cannonball is cool because his legs disappear into back blast when he flies, but why is there magic marker all around Karma’s head?

Still, when I saw the connection between The New Mutants and X-Force, comic books became another thing I could know more than others about, and since trying to make others feel stupid was how I dealt with my insecurity at that time, this was truly a treasure trove of defense for me!

X-Force spent their first few issues kicking ass and looking cool, and if you tell me anything more important to a 13-year-old-boy than kicking ass and looking cool, I will tell you that we don’t discuss such things here and you are crude for having such a thought.

I would also show you this splash page from X-Force #1.

Between Feral, Wolfsbane, and Wolverine, all the X-teams at this time had a wolf person.  Was that mandated, or were wolf folks really that cool?
Between Feral, Wolfsbane, and Wolverine, all the X-teams at this time had a wolf person. Was that mandated, or were wolf folks really that cool?


Where is Cable jumping from in that picture?  He seems like he is hanging from an invisible trapeze, and let’s be honest, if he was, that would just make him even more hardcore.  Also with all of the other stuff we see Cable do, being in possession of an invisible trapeze would be completely unsurprising.

The issue culminates around X-Force raiding the headquarters of the greatly-named Mutant Liberation Front.  That name is amazing.  There should be more “front” teams in comics.  I mean, I guess they’d all have to be bad guys since terrorist groups seem to have a TM on using Front in their team name.

The MLF ruled though, and they looked so distinctive.  I liked Reaper with his scythe, Tempo in her quasi Iron Man get up, and Forearm with his…four arms.  Also, there were like a million guys in the MLF, from their Cable-clone leader Stryfe (hey sorry if I spoiled that for you!) to the enigmatic Zero.  There were all the guys I have mentioned plus Zero, Kamikaze, Wildside, Sumo, Dragoness, Strobe, Tumbelina, and more.  The idea of the numerous legions vs. the elite but small task force is an intriguing one in all sorts of fiction, but it was made familiar to us all in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

TMNT had swords on their cartoons too, but as awesome as it might have been and as much as we wanted to see it, Leonardo never did anything like this to Baxter Stockman or Slash, the Evil Ninja Turtle.

Shatterstar is able to easily slice people up because his sword has two blades.  DOUBLE CUTTING ACTION!
Shatterstar is able to easily slice people up because his sword has two blades. DOUBLE CUTTING ACTION!


Later, it would sort of become a thing that Reaper had body parts cut off.  I think he wound up with a cybernetic hand and leg.   After that, he ended up in the Ultraverse.  That’s a different conversation for a different article, though.  For now, just understand that Reaper was in the MLF, which was awesome, and therefore, by extension, Reaper is awesome.

I like Forearm a great deal, too, but I know his name is silly.  You don’t have to chastise me.

What I don’t like about X-Force is the entire “should I kill or not” trope that dominated superheroes also comes up quite often,  It’s extra annoying here because Cable is all “I can kill, but you can’t” to the rest of X-Force.  It reminds me too much of my own issues with authorities.

Of course, Cable is super awesome, so even when he is being a tight-ass, he is still a cyborg being a tight-ass.  Perhaps I would have tolerated authority better if the authorities had glowing eyes and metal arms.

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Personally, I think it’s racism against Wolf Folks that made Cable decide it wasn’t ok for Feral to kill, but it was perfectly all right if he did.
Personally, I think it’s racism against Wolf Folks that made Cable decide it wasn’t ok for Feral to kill, but it was perfectly all right if he did.


I have complained about this before, and I am sure I will complain about it again, but it is just so stupid.  Kill or don’t, but quit the damn whining about it.  It’s as if many writers decided faux pathos and trite dialogue somehow substitute for genuine character development.   I’m not against tension or indecision in characters, but this gets old fast.  I’ve seen it in Darkhawk, and now I have seen it here.  Something tells me I am going to see it a lot more in this blog, whether I like it or not.

What I do like though, is Rob Liefeld’s Juggernaut.   Nothing can stop the Juggernaut, so nothing should look more powerful than he does, and few have drawn him with the inherent power and danger that Liefeld imbued him with.

Again, I have to ask, where is Shatterstar jumping from?  Did Cable lend him his invisible trapeze?
Again, I have to ask, where is Shatterstar jumping from? Did Cable lend him his invisible trapeze?


My favorite Juggernaut pic though, is this one.  In fact, it may be my favorite Juggernaut image of all time, which is saying something, because Juggernaut is my favorite super-villain.  Juggernaut looks angrier than a kid who had his pie stolen.  Not as sad though.

Is balloon stuffer a euphemism for a heroin dealer?  Also, note how Juggernaut is bleeding from his eyes, but he can still see.
Is balloon stuffer a euphemism for a heroin dealer? Also, note how Juggernaut is bleeding from his eyes, but he can still see.



X-Force is one of those titles that you love or hate.  I have been on both sides of the fence on it, and I like the view from both yards.  I can see why both sides come down on the side they come down on, and to be honest, I came into this expecting to detest it, or at least be meaner and snarkier about it.  Instead, I found myself enthralled by the magnitude of Liefeld’s art.  I found myself smiling as I recalled my days as a teenager who loved the excesses of this comic and just wanted to drink up the entire medium.  I smiled when I recalled how I became the comics hipster we all are at some point, denigrating Liefeld’s work as though it was inherently awful.  Now, I’m a man who appreciates that somehow, the dichotomy of those views make me work, and by bridging them together, I can appreciate the work for what it is while still recognizing its flaws.

There’s lots of X-Force left, and much of it doesn’t have Liefeld at all, but some of my favorite moments of the book (aside from the X-Statix stuff, which is crazy good), come from the period just after Liefeld leaves and forms Image; we will get to those next time I tackle X-Force, which will be quite sooner than later!   I had much more fun than I thought I would here; I miss X-Force tons, and I never would have believed it had I not gone back and devoured these Liefeld classics.  That’s right, I said classics.  No matter how you feel about him now, Liefeld changed the game.  X-Force changed the game.  No matter whether the change was for better or for worse in your opinion, the paradigm shift that came about can be directly attributed to Liefeld.  His early 90’s work had an energy and style that translated into what the era wanted at the time, and despite my days as a hipster, I find myself wanting more of his work now.  I don’t think I will be as kind to Youngblood, but X-Force is truly amazing in its own way, despite the flaws.  Give it a once-over and see if you don’t wind up agreeing with me, much to your shock and dismay over betraying the silly notion that you have held for years that “Liefeld ruined comics.”  If your self-revelation doesn’t cause you to die of a heartattack, then pick up the next issue of X-Force and enjoy the grandeur.

Be back here in two days for Bane and Doomsday in the Super-Blog Team-Up!